agree with u.i dont regret with what i am doing but just hope God grant me wisdom.

do u remember what happend last time in the yahoogroups? i just want to share. i didnt mean to bring in arguement. i m sorry bout that but i also sad why the ppl who called themselve the light and salt dont want to care bout what happening in the society?

Let me tell this.

The malays have been Hindu and Buddhist from the beginning of time, and only became Muslim beginning from the fifth century. Most malay words bear Hindu and Buddhist influence, from Sanskrit. Arabic only forms a small portion of Bahasa Melayu.

'Bahasa' is also Sanskrit for 'language'. The British meanwhile, called the malays East Indians as opposed to Indians from India. They never associated the malays with Arabs.

I have nothing against things Arabic. Arabic culture spawned modern technology and science, together with Indian, Chinese and yes, the malay culture.

But to make the malays 100 percent the product of Arabic culture, is to reduce them to an artificial people, a people without their own identity and history. It is cultural genocide.

Are we trying to say that without a Bangsa Malaysia, we cannot progress? That is absolute nonsense. In the older days when nobody spoke of Bangsa Malaysia, we had more respect among races. Now it seems we are heading towards the opposite direction.

If Umno has the answers, there is nothing to fear. But the question is, does Umno have the answers?

Attempts to ensure that divisional will be interpreted by outsiders as Umno's paranoia.

So Umno, please answer.

hi siao fang. i believe everyone plays a part in constructing our community. about yahoogroup last time, i believe it is a clash of interest with certain personnel. let's look upon the matter in a different perspective, and glad we've went through it well :)

Remember Raja Petra said: More than 90% of malays were actually non-Muslims, because they don't follow the teaching of Islam.

Can a true Muslim prohibit another Muslim to build a mosque? Any part of koran said to build a mosque for the Chinese Muslims is haram? Another Malaysia Boleh one story yah?

I firmly believe, when I die and go to hell, I will meet many "Malaysian Muslims" there, all the munafik who used Islam not for them to be closer to God, but for their idiotic, selfish and vicious self-interest.

More classic examples of half-past-six mentalities displayed by the present so-called leaders, ministers, and worst of all politicians (monkey-brain), bad for the nation but good for those who knows how to take advantage of their stupidity.

Religion alone can never help us to become more clever and smart, especially with the present attitude and style of the malays, who are going backwards more and more, and heading for the caves and jungles in time to come.

In Malaysia the constitution is not the supreme document in law. It has been so trampled by the Umno gangsters; it has come to a point where these gangsters are a law unto themselves. To them the constitution is respected when it suits their intents and toilet paper when it does not.

Mob rule is tolerated by the police when it is an Umno orchestrated mob. Non-Umno gatherings are an inconvenience and clobbered to pulp.

Malaysia is dead as a nation. They are dying to call this land Tanah Melayu so we might as well let them destroyed it. It is no loss to the non-malays since they are treated as pendatang anyway.

Let these gangsters plunder and rob their own kind. They are notorious for inbreeding in any case. They would probably enjoy devouring their own kind too. Crooks and hypocrites at the helm will never grow a nation. Only chaos and disaster beckon.

I wish it were different, but I have long since decided they deserve what they get. No point in banging my head against the wall.

Malaysia only hits the world's headlines when something goes wrong.

Nothing unusual there. Malaysia is regarded as a rogue state and whenever Malaysia is mentioned, it is always alongside countries which are corrupt and backward.

More recently, also a hotbed or a haven for radical Islam.

I can't imagine what goes through the minds of faceless Malaysians when Badawi declares prosperity and justice for Malaysians small and great every 31 August.

We have laws criminalizing hardworking family physicians while un-taxable illegal immigrants live off the fat of the land without fear of being deported and apprehended..

There are families too poor to take a bus ride from the hospital back to their kampung and politicians who throw tantrums in public because they were only offered "some useless cars" from the customs department.

The cops arrest couples for holding hands in public and crackdown on sincere, dissenting voices but "close one eye" when BN warlords contemptuously ignore their traffic summonses and fan religious and racial sentiments in mainstream media.

The BN government spends millions to "retrain" unemployed university graduates after spending years brainwashing them with the nebulous Umno agenda and thereafter expects them to perform in the real world.

Our teachers, lecturers and healthcare workers are understaffed and underpaid, overworked but we somehow have RM600 million annually to organize the great Malaysia summer camp a.k.a. National Service.

Our special schools for special children are miserably pathetic yet the ruling feudal masters feel that a RM490 million sports academy is of greater urgency.

Our local citizens wait for months for an ultrasound scan while Project M citizens have no qualms paying for a RM20000 angiogram.

Even as the monkeys in Umno, brandish their keris and sound the battle cry annually, snatch thieves wield their daggers and rob the lives of innocent Malaysians on a daily basis.

As Malaysians of all creeds and colors daily face the threat of violent crime, HIV, drug abuse, diabetes, choking haze and a disproportional rise in living costs, it seems that the only issue Umno is concerned with, is a non-existent Sino threat to its obsession with Ketuanan Melayu.

It should be compulsory reading for all politicians, national, local and state - in fact for all Malaysians as well - on the cavernous divide between the wretched and the fortunate in the country.

I just feel ashamed when every time I am carrying a Malaysian passport to travel to other country especially western country like Australia and US. This is due to our government policies about anti westerner and look down on the developing country like China, India and Vietnam is coming on this way.

In fact I would say, I am not in the group of Malaysians who are support our government, I do hate the government, sometimes I am thinking in my mind that whenever I will travel, I wish just to tell the people that I hate my government or just simply tell that I am from Singapore or even China is better still than telling them that I am from Malaysia.

Our country diplomatists are sucks, because our government are too proud of themselves, I don't know what is the thing that make them so proud?

Is that just because our minister always thought that they are far more richer than the minister or senator from other country, because our money is their money and their money does not belong to us!

But God sake, I am from Penang, I am really proud to be, because every time being ask about my place of origin, I would rather tell them I am from Penang, but not Malaysia, then you will hear some compliment from their speak.

If any of time I tell them that I am from Malaysia, then expect to hear "Oh, nice to meet you, I see you later" that is it, no more.

Let us face it, Malaysians.

National Airline = MAS = Loss Big

National Bank = Bank Bumi = Loss Also

National Car = Proton = Tak Boleh

National Policy = NEP = Never Ending Problem

National Road = Toll = Money For Warlock

National University = UM = Joke

In other words, whatever touch nationalised, just wait for the vultures to start feasting. Malaysians, you buggers are being taken for a ride by your leaders and yet, come election, don't know how to vote properly for the future of your children and next generation.

Show me when do the malays consult or ever extend their hands in friendship. Do the malays really treat non-malays with equity and fairness?

Seriously, I think all races in Malaysia treat each others at arms length. The malays expect other races to kowtow to them and never the way around. For example, Chinese and Indians were made to learn and study malay culture but the malays are not made to learn and study Chinese and Indian culture.

Why do the malays have to be in a superior position (oppressive one at that) all the time? What is wrong for Malaysia to have, say a Chinese chief justice or an Indian chief of armed forces or even a prime minister!

How do we expect them to continue with their goodwill if we do not ever treat them with equity and fairness? I think the malays are paranoid and are projecting their own insecurity onto others.

That is my point and it is time that we begin to envision the land of ours from an inclusively point of view instead of exclusivity point of view. We have to begin this starting point somehow, somewhere and the time is now.

You are wasting your time by presenting the facts. Fact means nothing to them and you should know that by now. The Malaysian Muslims are seriously stupid and severely retarded. I am simply having fun. I work with them everyday and I cannot describe to you their inability to formulate simple logic.

As an adult trying to make it in the real world, I have developed a clear understanding of what goes on around me.

And this what I believe is the real situation in Malaysia. As long as the malays get their way in how things are done in Malaysia - there will never be any serious development in Malaysia.

This is the fundamental. Please avoid giving example of successful malays, because economically, the numbers are too darn low to mean anything. Negligible they call it.

Malays must realise that as humans - they are I suppose equal. But as peoples, they have attitude that is exactly like the aborigines of Africa. Completely hopeless, no matter what you give them.

The malays can never win - for as long as they chose to do things the way it is done now. Eventually, the other races would consume them economically, and they would be second class citizens. This is a matter of time.

My opinion is - the only way for them to succeed, is to take away all special rights and learn to get by on their own abilities. The stupid and weak malays would die - and only the bright ones would survive.

They are doing themselves a favour by taking away their special rights. Because look around you, the other races are getting stronger because our weak ones are dying.

We will continue to get stronger. And there will be a day, when we control all the financial means in the country. Then it is a matter of buying off each one of you puny malays - and then take over the country.

Yes, it appears that the leadership of the university, especially the students department head, and in cohort with the notorious Biro Tata Negara (BTN), had displayed to the whole wide world the extent to which it was willing to go - and this is to the level of the gutter.

And for what, you might ask? Well, in order to ensure victory of its favoured 'pro-government' faction of the student community in the forthcoming campus election. That is Malaysia campus democracy for you!

Contrary to its official objective of promoting national unity, seminars of this nature often end up stoking racist sentiments of a particular ethnic group, which really is pathetic.

What is even more despicable is the fact that such a 'seminar' was organised by an institution of higher learning that prides itself of competing on the world stage. Can one really believe that these people could actually face the various facets of globalisation by a hare-brained and simplistic strategy such as Jew-bashing?

And I thought the UPM recent ghastly episode was bad enough. Looks like the local universities are 'competing' on the kampung level to show who is the foolish of them all.

do u think act like an ostrich is the way to go through?

i sms to all our brothers and sisters in lord the day before the judgement to ask them to pray and read malaysiakini even i knew the result will be like this. i will post the news to the yahoogroups last time. after i learned the lesson, i wont do that again. i just become the silent lamb in that group.

dear siao fang, acting like an ostrich is not an option as a caring and responsible citizen. for the past event, i supposed the issue lies within the action that we should take. we need to solve the problem, and not counter the problem with another problem :)

on my side, my belief is more unto solving the problem through effective citizens, where they practise their rights as voters. be diligent in choosing the rightful government. be vocal in raising issues to our concerns. be active instead of being reactive.

do not do it in our ways, instead do it in His way, for the glory of the Lord.

in one word, do it with - wisdom, from above.